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		<title>Comment on A hard rain beats down upon fragile flowers by davidhwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidhwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Stefani :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Stefani <img src='http://www.bornentrepreneur.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Call me a hypocrite, but I think Steve Jobs was a jerk by sfobear</title>
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		<dc:creator>sfobear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does society insist that just because men do great things, that somehow excuses them from any moral standard?  We are all human, but it is for that very reason that we strive to become more humane.  If you think that just because your a mover and a shaker that excuses you from any reprehensible acts toward other people, your are very sadly mistaken.  I once admired Steven Jobs, now I have mostly contempt for him.  He could have been a great man as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does society insist that just because men do great things, that somehow excuses them from any moral standard?  We are all human, but it is for that very reason that we strive to become more humane.  If you think that just because your a mover and a shaker that excuses you from any reprehensible acts toward other people, your are very sadly mistaken.  I once admired Steven Jobs, now I have mostly contempt for him.  He could have been a great man as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A hard rain beats down upon fragile flowers by Stefani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2011 03:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is beautiful, David.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is beautiful, David.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Millionaire&#8217;s Notebook: How Ordinary People Can Achieve Extraordinary Success by poettyclult</title>
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		<dc:creator>poettyclult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im not sure where I should  
Fat Burning</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not sure where I should<br />
Fat Burning</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call me a hypocrite, but I think Steve Jobs was a jerk by A Different Perspective on Steve Jobs Greatness and Success &#124; Austin Gunter Online</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Different Perspective on Steve Jobs Greatness and Success &#124; Austin Gunter Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Austin Entrepreneur and founder of Conjunctured, and 302 Designs wrote a post titled, &#8220;Call Me a Hypocrite, But Steve Jobs was a Jerk,&#8221; I wanted to respond with my own perspective on the man whose work has touched all our [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Austin Entrepreneur and founder of Conjunctured, and 302 Designs wrote a post titled, &#8220;Call Me a Hypocrite, But Steve Jobs was a Jerk,&#8221; I wanted to respond with my own perspective on the man whose work has touched all our [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call me a hypocrite, but I think Steve Jobs was a jerk by davidhwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidhwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Micah, Thanks for providing the perspective of looking to Jobs as a celebrity. Thinking of him in that way is a pill that is much easier to swallow. But as a billionaire, celebrity or business man, or whatever, he still really missed the boat on seeing what impact he could have made as a humanitarian if he dipped his toe in the water. Jobs could have been someone much different rather than &quot;just another face in history that changed things up a bit.&quot; I certainly don&#039;t think it&#039;s anyone&#039;s role to force someone to go a certain route in life. Perhaps, though, if Jobs had an even bigger vision he could have realized an even greater potential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Micah, Thanks for providing the perspective of looking to Jobs as a celebrity. Thinking of him in that way is a pill that is much easier to swallow. But as a billionaire, celebrity or business man, or whatever, he still really missed the boat on seeing what impact he could have made as a humanitarian if he dipped his toe in the water. Jobs could have been someone much different rather than &#8220;just another face in history that changed things up a bit.&#8221; I certainly don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s anyone&#8217;s role to force someone to go a certain route in life. Perhaps, though, if Jobs had an even bigger vision he could have realized an even greater potential.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call me a hypocrite, but I think Steve Jobs was a jerk by davidhwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidhwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin, &quot;costs must be paid...what costs are we as entrepreneurs willing to pay?&quot; it&#039;s a curious question on morality. and a scary one at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin, &#8220;costs must be paid&#8230;what costs are we as entrepreneurs willing to pay?&#8221; it&#8217;s a curious question on morality. and a scary one at that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call me a hypocrite, but I think Steve Jobs was a jerk by davidhwalker</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 22:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, that blog got 318 comments. thx for the link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, that blog got 318 comments. thx for the link!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call me a hypocrite, but I think Steve Jobs was a jerk by Austin Gunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin Gunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad someone has said this about Steve Jobs.  The stories about him that have always grabbed my attention have been his over the top and imbalanced attention to the smallest of details: Calling the CEO of Google at his home on Sunday to complain about the color of the Google Logo on the iPhone app, and holding up a release of iTunes because one of the fonts in the menus wasn&#039;t to his satisfaction.

In my mind, and having worked with a number of entrepreneurs and innovators, my intuition is that there is probably more than a casual relationship between this type of behavior and the creation of a company as large, successful, and wealthy as Apple is.  I think that if we looked closely at other self-made billionaires, we would find a similar focus on perfection at any costs, including the sacrifice of everything, including health and family, in pursuit of their vision.  I don&#039;t think that type of wealth creation or company success is possible without being that kind of relentless.  See also, Steve Jobs died early of a disease that is linked to stress.  

I&#039;m not really making a case to justify his behavior, in fact, quite the opposite.  David, I support your challenge.  My only intent by writing is that to truly emulate Steve Jobs is to embrace the sort of imbalanced life focus, orders of magnitude outside the norm, in order to achieve results that are similarly imbalanced (becoming a billionaire).  

To achieve those sorts of innovations, costs must be paid, and the question that I ask myself is what costs are we as entrepreneurs willing to pay?  I&#039;m personally in it for the balance of my life and living it.  But I suspect that for many, including Steve Jobs, his balance was his success on the terms he defined and then asked everyone around him to live up to.  I suspect that he was harder on himself than he was of anyone he worked with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad someone has said this about Steve Jobs.  The stories about him that have always grabbed my attention have been his over the top and imbalanced attention to the smallest of details: Calling the CEO of Google at his home on Sunday to complain about the color of the Google Logo on the iPhone app, and holding up a release of iTunes because one of the fonts in the menus wasn&#8217;t to his satisfaction.</p>
<p>In my mind, and having worked with a number of entrepreneurs and innovators, my intuition is that there is probably more than a casual relationship between this type of behavior and the creation of a company as large, successful, and wealthy as Apple is.  I think that if we looked closely at other self-made billionaires, we would find a similar focus on perfection at any costs, including the sacrifice of everything, including health and family, in pursuit of their vision.  I don&#8217;t think that type of wealth creation or company success is possible without being that kind of relentless.  See also, Steve Jobs died early of a disease that is linked to stress.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really making a case to justify his behavior, in fact, quite the opposite.  David, I support your challenge.  My only intent by writing is that to truly emulate Steve Jobs is to embrace the sort of imbalanced life focus, orders of magnitude outside the norm, in order to achieve results that are similarly imbalanced (becoming a billionaire).  </p>
<p>To achieve those sorts of innovations, costs must be paid, and the question that I ask myself is what costs are we as entrepreneurs willing to pay?  I&#8217;m personally in it for the balance of my life and living it.  But I suspect that for many, including Steve Jobs, his balance was his success on the terms he defined and then asked everyone around him to live up to.  I suspect that he was harder on himself than he was of anyone he worked with.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Call me a hypocrite, but I think Steve Jobs was a jerk by Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad told me one time that I was using a mouse before I knew how to talk. This mouse was connected to a macintosh plus. My career, interests, and the money in my wallet would be completely different if that mouse did not wind up in my slobbery hand.

To think that Jobs was a saint is naive. You need to think of him as a celebrity. Try making some of the most beautiful and wanted objects in the world and remain a normal person humbly bumbling along when you know that your actions will be judged by millions. Add on to that the fact that he got fired from his own company and his valuable ideas were stolen right from under him. I certainly would not be acting like a saint. I would be pissed and bloodthirsty.

As for the CSR thing, philanthropy is not a scale that weighs people&#039;s character, despite what the car bumpers and ribbons of hope have to say. 

Jobs most likely was an asshole, but I owe him quite a bit of who I am now. He&#039;s not a sinner or a saint. Nothing to cry about, nothing to rejoice about. He is just another face in history that changed things up a bit.

I completely agree with your challenge to the future business leaders. We can and will be better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad told me one time that I was using a mouse before I knew how to talk. This mouse was connected to a macintosh plus. My career, interests, and the money in my wallet would be completely different if that mouse did not wind up in my slobbery hand.</p>
<p>To think that Jobs was a saint is naive. You need to think of him as a celebrity. Try making some of the most beautiful and wanted objects in the world and remain a normal person humbly bumbling along when you know that your actions will be judged by millions. Add on to that the fact that he got fired from his own company and his valuable ideas were stolen right from under him. I certainly would not be acting like a saint. I would be pissed and bloodthirsty.</p>
<p>As for the CSR thing, philanthropy is not a scale that weighs people&#8217;s character, despite what the car bumpers and ribbons of hope have to say. </p>
<p>Jobs most likely was an asshole, but I owe him quite a bit of who I am now. He&#8217;s not a sinner or a saint. Nothing to cry about, nothing to rejoice about. He is just another face in history that changed things up a bit.</p>
<p>I completely agree with your challenge to the future business leaders. We can and will be better.</p>
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